Here is the message. LAST YEAR, AMBER Heard filed for divorce from actor Johnny Depp and subsequently filed a domestic violence restraining order against him. After tweeting "#IStandWithAmberHeard," the women say they've gotten threatening messages. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Based on what I've seen of the trial, I think Amber Heard is very much the aggressor. This is the most painful and difficult thing Ive ever gone through, for sure.. I dont want to despair for humanity. And two are middle-aged men who are white-knighting, accuse any woman saying they dont believe her of just being jealous because shes so hot and such a strong, successful woman and claim that its disgusting how women are defending Depp. I havent watched the whole entire thing though. As a society, its important that we believe women. Were watching people actively seek out humor in domestic abuse as Roe v. Wade is terrorized by pro-lifers and as we see yet more episodes of racially aggravated violence. They mock a woman they refuse to believe at all even though false reports of domestic violence are extremely rare. Both have stated that they don't believe men are victims of abusive women, that the man always has the power in the relationship and therefore it's their own fault if they are harmed by their "victim.". Its a sad truism that no one is as hard on women as other women. This is imo spot on and exactly what I believe. What will this trial do to women already afraid to report their abusers? Some people do. What Do I Do About the Ex Who Is Slandering Me (And Our Relationship) Online? Cooper Lawrence didnt mince her words when assessing Heards first morning of testimony. I think its also a tough situation because abusers that are good manipulators will have everyone saying no, not them which can be even harder on the victim. But like with a lot of things Amber says it does not fit. Photo by STEVE HELBER/POOL/AFP via Getty Images. "The Abused can't look at the tormentor. Code, or contact the Council, at www.presscouncil.ie, Aggressive_Elk_1754 3 mo. Oh yeah, tons of people are defending her. I'm inclined to sympathize with Depp. I dont like the term reactive abuse because I dont think that a victims reaction to being abused should be categorized as any kind of abuse. Want to bookmark your favourite articles and stories to read or reference later? Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. The turd curse has struck again! Those who know me can tell you about the passion that I have not just for my job and the company that I work for but . Why does such vile testimony consistently elicit contempt from Johnny Depp? Yes. They both need professional help. Go on social media, and the anti-Heard sentiment is palpable. Still, despite the fact that Londons High Court previously found allegations that Depp was a wife beater to be substantially true, the internet appears to have overwhelmingly picked Depps side. It's really hard to know what is authentic and what is an act. However, the hashtag #IStandWithAmberHeard also trended on Twitter, with a number of people speaking out in support of the actress. She sounded rehearsed but she had talking points, she made sure to keep saying eggshells, walking on eggshells, or pattern, pattern of behaviour.. Both of these guys have said at one point or another that Depp deserved it, that theyve always hated his movies, and that they wouldnt care if she cut their own fingers off because shes hot. i am sick to my stomach watching from home, can't imagine how he must be feeling.". And if after everything that has been presented in this trial (not to mention the UK trial where JD lost as the judge found that he was the abuser in that relationship - about 130 pages of court decision with evidences presented are available online), then yes I think that about everyone who supports him and also everyone who goes with well both of them abused narrative. In an emergency, call 000. Depp had previously lost a 2020 libel case against British tabloid The Sun, which had labeled the Charlie and the Chocolate Factory star a "wife-beater," in reference to Heard's allegations of domestic abuse. The Abused can't look at the tormentor. Mandel was also later informed that Depp had violently kicked Heard during an incident that took place in or around 2014. Why are there so few feminist voices standing up for her? Hes nasty and disturbed and shes nasty and disturbed he hurt her and she hurt him and I believe her. I havent met one person yet just wondering if there are any out there. I'm also glad you mentioned the homo/transphobia. Being friends with Amber Heard has its consequences. hdsejs123. Yet day in and day out, Depps female fans flood the courtroom and stare lovingly at the back of his head. Just Ambers word and a photo of her with a pimple. Johnny also misconstrued amber wanting to help him with drugs: she tried to encourage sobriety on him and he saw it as nagging and controlling, also didnt believe he had a problem, and when he did see the problem, his pride led him to having a hard time admitting that to amber after he spent years denying it. He cut his own finger. Abuse isnt always immediately obvious and usually requires investigation to confirm. Of course, all of this is just speculation. She misconstrued their relationship and denied her part in it. There is also need by certain groups to have this one very public case of man being a victim of DV so they can trash the MeToo movement. During the first 10 minutes of testimony, Depp kept his head down. No photos, no medical records, no nothing. ago. Theyre accused of deliberately trying to destroy a mans life with false accusations. All too often, allegations of domestic violence and sexual assault are met with scepticism and suspicion. The material on this site may not be reproduced, distributed, transmitted, cached or otherwise used, except with the prior written permission of Cond Nast. Group Leaders communicate with staff moderators and escalate potential violations for review, but they dont moderate discussions. But, I acknowledge that Heard's allegations are possible. Thanx. They could have gotten the divorce quietly, gotten the help they need, and moved on. As many have pointed out, however, none of this should come as news to anyone seeing as Amber Heard said Johnny Depp abused Amber Heard last year. Johnny Depp's refusal to look at Amber Heard as she testified about the alleged abuse she suffered during their relationship has sparked a debate online.. Depp, 58, filed a $50 million lawsuit . Create an account or log in to participate. There is this biphobia belief that bi people will cheat on you and enjoy threesomes. I know a couple people who are on amber's side because they think Johnny Depp is getting better treatment and that people believe him simply because he's Jonny Depp. That complicates things. The details of both Depp and Heards testimonies are harrowing all by themselvesgruesome, violent, and containing deeply intimate anecdotes about their relationship. "I felt safe talking to my mom because I knew she understood those dynamics and she wouldn't judge me for staying with him, for loving him even though this was happening to me," Heard said. He is using such vile language and accusations against her in this very message just so he can protect her in the last paragraph of the same message. hammering Heard over her promise to donate her divorce settlement to charities, donations not yet fulfilled. Johnny tried to help her by telling her how to dress and what roles to take, and took it too far. Johnny Depp is seeking damages of $50 million after Amber Heard wrote an op-ed . The answer doesn't lie in chanting "believe all women", a mantra implying that the only way of overcoming centuries of misogyny is to treat women alone as above suspicion. Its very hard to believe her; I want to, but the way shes coming across in her testimony just feels like its not genuine., At this point, Nat Barr said, You dont mince your words!. Completely believable. I think theyre both deranged liars. So that commenced in a lot of pettiness. When #JohnnyDepp testified #AmberHeard was staring at him and has done throughout. I do want to add though, the ppl on social media dogpiling on her and making fun of and mocking SA allegations are incredibly damaging and triggering to real victims and is not okay. Press J to jump to the feed. If he had beaten her like she says and there were pictures I don't think there would be a trial. . posts, comments and submissions available. "Just because #JohnnyDepp keeps his head down doesn't make him innocent!" I dont really buy that, personally, but it could be. I suppose my real question is, are they saying she did it intentionally? Registered office: 3rd floor, Latin Hall, Golden Lane, Dublin 8. But I kept quiet I did not expect filing complaints to bring justice. He refuses to look at her.#JohnnyDeppVsAmberHeard #DeppHeardTrial pic.twitter.com/RWDsfLdZ91. Same with amber expect the misogynistic part to ageist. Please dont tell me she was sober. Amber Heard was able to provide texts, videoand photographs to substantiate her claims. So much so, in fact, that some fans are blaming Jason Momoas Aquaman co-star Amber Heard for the end of his marriage. . A redden spot on the cheek doesn't count towards damage nor does a bruise on the arm. Sometimes it's important to wear the same thing twice". including someone who is wearing the rings Johnny wears they would cause marks & both have testified he wore them all the time, except the images of her face and bruises do not measure up one bit to being repeatedly hit and choked by a man larger than her. You think to yourself, Which one of them is doing the better job of acting?. I found him *somewhat* believable and I find her believable. Ditto. [Stop] changing the narrative to suit your love for Depp. Heard took to the . The memes have been ferocious, sometimes consisting of a spot-the-difference comparison with domestic-abuse victims; at other times, televised courtroom footage has been appropriated to openly mock her appearance. Nevertheless, that hasnt stopped fans from pointing fingers at Amber Heard for the end of Jason Momoas marriage. The exes are pictured attending the Virgin Atlantic Gala screening of "Black Mass" during the BFI London Film Festival at Odeon Leicester Square on October 11, 2015 in London, England. Shes focusing on all of it. To revist this article, visit My Profile, then View saved stories. Many believe that charge was a settlement, so nobody had to sit through another trial.My interest, and I hope people speak up, whichever side they're on, without every night, between 230 am and 4am my baby starts with the grunting. People seem to love a story where a person who we might traditionally think of as a victim is instead cast as the . He admitted to doing that. Either way, there is clear cut evidence that comes from no other than him, but of course you are free to believe whoever you want. We certainly dont want to believe that this entire court case is a precise and conniving operation in discrediting Heard, regardless of what she has to say, regardless of her truth. Lets revisit this cover story in The Hollywood Reporter, which ran in December 2020, one month after Depp lost his U.K. libel suit which declared him, essentially, a wife-beater. Amber story doesnt make sense?? the crying? He added that companies are looking for added value, not negativity, noting that a film star becomes the face of a franchise they appear in. The two were together for 16 years, which means their divorce might come as something of a shock. But she did. I believe her side and I believe some of his side. Okay, but the whole writing creepy ss messages on mirrors and lampshades with a bloody severed finger isnt a question of fact or a question of credibility. Please refresh the page or navigate to another page on the site to be automatically logged inPlease refresh your browser to be logged in, Richard Marks says family-friendly companies like Disney are the pinnacle of sensitivity, Find your bookmarks in your Independent Premium section, under my profile, Watch live as Johnny Depps trial against Amber Heard continues. But I never called. yes she sounds like an actress! if you read my response Im not a die hard fan. They were both completely toxic though and the trial is a mess . If anything we have been conditioned by society to believe her and not him. Fighting for Heard is going to set back feminism just as much as this case already has, I guarantee you. Its time to believe Heard. I just listened to a few mins. No. I dont think it was as violent as she describes, but I can also see it happening with different details. #JustSaying. This is really weird to me considering she would call him a "monster" intoxicated and claimed to want him sober. This story has been shared 103,553 times. Depp has taken Heard to trial, accusing her of defaming him with domestic-violence allegations. Then two years ago, I became a public figure representing domestic abuse, and I felt the full force of our cultures wrath for women who speak out, she added at the time. I'm mindful that these two are actors. i dont think Amber Heard believes Amber Heard. Lawrence said the real test will come when Amber Heard faces cross-examination. Theyre both unbelievably toxic. Dont ask Amber Heard to be a perfect victim. Heard has counter-sued for $100 million for nuisance, with her attorneys arguing that the op-ed was a matter of public interest. I could care less about either of them I havent watched a single movie with either of them in it. Over 3 million people read Morning Brew ; you should too! Amber Heard did everything she was "supposed" to do. Hes just as toxic as she is and vice versa from my pov. Johnny, an addict, looks for the coke and trashes the room in the process. and indemnify Journal Media in relation to such content and their ability to make such content, Join half a million readers enjoying Newsweek's free newsletters, Johnny Depp's (L) refusal to look at Amber Heard (R) as she testified about the alleged abuse she suffered during their relationship has sparked a debate online. They both got hurt by each other, but in the end Johnny is the victim and Amber the abuser. As the trial's fourth week rolls on in Fairfax, Virginia, the Aquaman actress took the stand on Wednesday as she detailed her allegations, and said that the past few weeks had been "the most painful and difficult thing I've ever gone through. No human is 100% evil, not even Amber Heard. He admitted to cutting his own finger. The educational health content on What To Expect is reviewed by our medical review board and team of experts to be up-to-date and in line with the latest evidence-based medical information and accepted health guidelines, including the medically reviewed What to Expect books by Heidi Murkoff. If either one of them feels justified in any of the things theyve done in this relationship, they need professional intervention on an ongoing (probably permanent) basis. It seemed like it was all bad and the kids didnt want to be a part of it from the start. I didn't believe they could do anything for me. That does not make any sense. Maybe Im crazy but I believe Johnny Depp 100% & I wasnt even a Johnny Depp fan prior. services and because he is Johnny Deep. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. 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